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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.03 20:02:00 -
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Many sources have convincingly described your corporation as a Dark Empire collaborator and piratical quisling outfit.
Biomass consider Crice a trused "friend" and supplier and supporter.
This is sufficient for the NVA to consider your people and ships KOS and valid war targets for future reprisals.
You must stand by the consequences for your actions m'dear.
Love and peace
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.03 20:47:00 -
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Sarah, your corporation is referred to as a Dark Empire "ally" by Biomass in several unclassified comms, and at least one classified intel source. Your ships have been seen cooporating with known Biomass allies.
If you have appeared wrongly on these lists you need to ask questions about why Biomass and the Dark Alliance consider you an ally.
NB.
I would point out at this stage that the NVA and our allies are actively searching for connections between the pirates of the Dark Empire/Biomass alliance and supportors and friends both pirate, and ostensibly legal.
As was our practise in the Taggart war, we will be pressing military attacks against those who support our enemies.
If there is ambiguity in your relations with Biomass and the Dark Empire (and) you do not wish to be targetted by our irregular forces, then it is up to your corp to distance your business from the theatre of operations and place clear blue water between your interests and theirs.
Consider carefully which set of friends will serve you best.
These pirates and allies are currently a fairly dominant force in Northern Lonetrek.
This may not always be the case,
And if they oneday leave it will be the quislings and collaborators that are left to pay the price in blood for their deprivations.
Choices need to be made.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.03 20:56:00 -
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Sarah, thats the intel we have. If its false we will be happy to review the case. We have no interest in targetting the wrong people.
Please understand we get a lot of information from supporters and allies in the pirate territories ... a lot of our decisions are made on the balance of imperfect assessment and 70/30% bets.
I can confirm that your corp name does appear on internal Biomass allies lists however for whatever reason.
Still, please drop me an evemail in-game and we can discuss this.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.03 23:18:00 -
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I hope thats not whining I can hear mr Crusader 10k?
(Watch your back)
;)
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 00:14:00 -
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I think we all know the difference between the automated market trading system and the dodgy under the table handshake with known scumbags mr Pox.
Lets not insult the intelligence of the audience now.
Love and peace
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 03:26:00 -
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Tell you what ... we are bound to have an official post on corp forum sooner or later to explain the full range of KOS subjects for the war. Why don't you save your high-brow criticism for when I publicise that one mr Pecker. You are kinda wasted on this little threadlet ...
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 17:44:00 -
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Jacob, you have been watching the wrong alliance if you have NVA confused with helpless naive carebears. We fight wars hard, and its not just about stand up fights.
You chaps brought this to our hearth and home and the principle here is that those collaborators that pay Biomass tribute to preserve their own existance as servile cringing dogs beneath the Dark Empire shadow will be made to pay a price for the honest and legitimate business driven to destruction by the iron fist of Biomass tyranny.
If you don't want to be associated with Biomass and the Dark Empire then get out. Move away.
If you don't care for your reputation then stay and count on the pirate alliance to defend you.
But don't act all surprised when the NVA hold your industrial mining operations to account with fire and sword and destructive raiding.
This is going to be a long war.
We have always known this.
Anyone that believed the NVA would fold after a single upset has obviously neglected to read their history lessons.
And Jacob, about your shades of gray;
Don't fool yourself, we don't hate you for being pirates, we aren't on some kind of CFS-style moral crusade here. We hate you because you have named your intent to harm our alliance and it is in our interest to eliminate your ability to do us harm.
In short,
We are fighting a war.
And we will target your allies and supporters because we want to win, and to preserve the NVA we have bled and sacrificed to build.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 19:18:00 -
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Can only be a flame war if both sides flame. As far as this thread goes ... we are providing sensible, logical and well thought out responses, and the other side is attempting to blind us with their mastery of gutter rhetoric and palour-game conjurations.
As Jacob and Techie zero would have it, now Biomass are the good guys ;)
Still lets allow the viewing public to make up their mind shall we?
I'm not exactly counting on many more idealogical converts from the Biomass camp.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 19:32:00 -
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Back to the "shades of gray" thing and the NVA being harsh; that is pretty much the name of the game. We held an open territory for a few weeks and for our pains were betrayed by turncoats and traitors sponsored by Biomass. That has taught us that Biomass must be eliminated if the NVA protectorate and charter is to be successful.
And yes, innocent people will be hurt in this war. But these things happen, and the cause of the NVA is sufficient and just to enable us to make hard decisions for the greater good.
An example here. A corporation named EveGHSTs has been trying to join the NVA for a few weeks. They flew with our fleets, and were beginning to build a good rep.
Then last night one of their members "Warmech" turns against us and sides with the traitor Hupa in a small action before joining Biomass.
In response the NVA have pleaced EveGHSTs as KOS and told them to get out of our territory.
Why have we done this ... I will let the conversation speak for itself:
[ 2003.11.04 16:21:26 ] WarMechJH > they hired me?! i was their combat leader.... so... get them of the kos list
[ 2003.11.04 16:22:15 ] Jade Constantine > well shows poor judgement on their part and to be honest a traitor like you wanting them off is reason to keep them on
[ 2003.11.04 16:22:48 ] WarMechJH > hmpf
[ 2003.11.04 16:23:21 ] Jade Constantine > people in this game have to start realising there are consequences for their actions
[ 2003.11.04 16:23:46 ] WarMechJH > well you remember eve ghsts is trying to get in NVA? and they still try and then you put them at KOS:P
[ 2003.11.04 16:24:01 ] Jade Constantine > yes and now they never will get in
[ 2003.11.04 16:24:23 ] WarMechJH > thats stupid tho
[ 2003.11.04 16:24:32 ] Jade Constantine > not at all we have been hurt by traitors
[ 2003.11.04 16:24:43 ] WarMechJH > yes it is :P why punish the whole corp?
[ 2003.11.04 16:24:54 ] Jade Constantine > they have shown a massive lack of judgement to be associated with you
[ 2003.11.04 16:24:58 ] WarMechJH > why not only me?
[ 2003.11.04 16:25:14 ] Jade Constantine > because we hold corps accountable for the actions of their members
[ 2003.11.04 16:25:19 ] WarMechJH > they never did bad things like pod/kill
[ 2003.11.04 16:25:33 ] Jade Constantine > they had you in their corp
[ 2003.11.04 16:25:49 ] WarMechJH > how could that knew i became pirate
[ 2003.11.04 16:26:13 ] Jade Constantine > i would know if one of my guys was flaky
[ 2003.11.04 16:26:31 ] WarMechJH > i try to be nice and put them off kos and leave them alone and yu may put me on kos i dont care but get them off kos list
[ 2003.11.04 16:26:39 ] Jade Constantine > nope ôyouö aren't on kos
[ 2003.11.04 16:26:49 ] WarMechJH > well i tried
[ 2003.11.04 16:26:55 ] Jade Constantine > you are too irrelevant m'dear
[ 2003.11.04 16:26:56 ] WarMechJH > i am im in biomass
[ 2003.11.04 16:27:03 ] Jade Constantine > well thatÆs biomass
[ 2003.11.04 16:27:16 ] WarMechJH > so thatÆs all members
[ 2003.11.04 16:27:19 ] Jade Constantine > you are just a tiny little cog in the great machine
[ 2003.11.04 16:28:24 ] WarMechJH > so im on your kos list because biomass is a corp so every1 in it is on kos
[ 2003.11.04 16:28:39 ] Jade Constantine > but not specifically thatÆs the point
[ 2003.11.04 16:28:55 ] WarMechJH > why donÆt you put my name on KOS and get ghsts off it
[ 2003.11.04 16:29:10 ] Jade Constantine > because you are too irrelevant and we are making an example of corps that that have turncoats
[ 2003.11.04 16:29:40 ] WarMechJH > can you just put them off kos....
[ 2003.11.04 16:29:45 ] Jade Constantine > nope
[ 2003.11.04 16:29:47 ] WarMechJH > they didnÆt do anything.....
[ 2003.11.04 16:29:53 ] Jade Constantine > they had you in their corp
[ 2003.11.04 16:30:05 ] WarMechJH > i aint now!
[ 2003.11.04 16:30:06 ] Jade Constantine > that shows a massive lack of judgement if we had let Eves Ghsts join NVA we would now have another traitor (you) and by endangering us like that Eves Ghsts deserve KOS
[ 2003.11.04 16:31:04 ] WarMechJH > ok nice to talk with you i tried cya
[ 2003.11.04 16:31:22 ] Jade Constantine > bye bye
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 20:08:00 -
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lol Easy Target, a little bird told me you guys just like to be on KOS lists ;)
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 20:25:00 -
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Crice, if we had let EveGHSTs join when they wanted to, by now they would have secure forum access, mil command access and WarmechMJ would have access to fleet command information.
His treachery might well have cost a dozen loyal members of the NVA their ships and caused a billion isk hit to the alliance.
So yes,
We hold corporations accountable for their membership.
If you are interested in joining the NVA then make sure your traitors are well and truly shaken down and shown the door.
And for EveGHST's I would say this.
KOS in this instance means we don't want to see your ships in our territory, not that we will make a point of hunting you down.
If you want to see this made good then you need to punish WarmechMJ extensively from your own resources.
And Crice, as I said to you last night,
Your collaboration with Biomass Cartel disqualilfies your corporation from moral standing. Your decisions are your own, but you do not profit from the actions of the greatest murderers of innocent shipping in Eve and then come here with any sort of right or platform to condemn the actions of others.
You have stated your position - morally neutral on the actions of Biomass and happy to profit from the relationship. You therefore have no right to make moral judgements on the actions of others.
Love and peace
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 20:50:00 -
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Slinky Redfoot,
You really don't get it do you m'dear. Just because we might be seen as the "good guys" in this, doesn't mean we have to play by rules defined in your comic books.
Shall I say it one more time for effect?
Corporations that profit from the misery of innocent shipping have no right to question the morality of other actions.
And by the by,
You should try logging in and checking your corp channels and mail.
I think you might find out some things about your place in this struggle.
Run along now.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 21:26:00 -
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Anyway since this dicussion has caused such hilarity already, here is the full public list, which may also be viewed at the NVA forums in the public section.
New Venal Alliance:
Members List
[BLADE] Bladerunners
[C.C] Cult of Cthulhu
[CDI] Cyberdyne Industries
[CPDS] Copiae Dius
[DI] Draconic Industries
[FGH] Fighters of Heineken
[INF] Infinicorp
[JERIC] Jericho Fraction
[LUMMA] General Snus
[KIA] KIA Corp
[MDI] Manifest Destiny Inc.
[OI] Oberon Incorporated
[OCC] Occassus Republica
[ROHAN] Riders of Rohan
[RKK] Reikoku
[RONA] Rona Corporation
[TWC] The Whitesand Consortium
Military or Industrial Allies
[BBBB] Big Bang Burger Bar
[BSC] British Space Corp.
[CAR] Carbide Industries
[CON] Conman Enterprises
[C-C] Cryogenic Consultancy
[DCINC] Dreamcatchers Inc.
[EVO] Evolution
[HDY] Hadean Drive Yards
[GODS] Generals of Destruction Syndicate
[LUCA] Lucri Causa
[PID] Pardon Inc
[PAIN] The Pain Syndicate
[SWC] Solar Wind
[T-N-T] Tahiti Twisters
[TWB] The Wolf Brigade
[XAN] Xanadu
Enemy (Corps) War Status KOS - Engage freely
[10KAD] Crusaders 10000AD
[BM-C] Biomass Cartel
[CRICE] Crice Corporation
[CRUIS] Mercenary Cruisers
[FRIG] Mercenary Frigates
[GHSTS] Eve's Ghsts
[HOOD] Hooded Figures Inc
[JOKER] Jokers Corp
[MOO] MOO
[NOVA] Terra Nova Corp
[PAK] PAK
[RAVEN] Ravens of Valhalla
[SPVD] Space Invaders
[TDG] Tundragon
[TLBC] The Legitimate Businessmans Club
[VALK] Valkyrie Enterprises
[ZOMB] Zombie Inc
Unknown ships in Venal:
Venal and the northern regions are closed to non-NVA non Military Ally shipping.
Thank you for listening. Any enquiries or issues please contact me or another council member in-game.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.05 04:10:00 -
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Hey Jade, this is only a game.
Snap out of it already!
*smiles* I know its a game you sweet little man. But you see, I am one of those roleplayers you hear about, and I like to pretend we are actually alliance leaders and strategists planning the clash of fleets and establishment of regional governments in lawless territories ... its called suspension of disbelief.
But I promise you I don't really hate these guys in reality ... there is no danger I will blow up mr Crice's house for being a quisling collaborator in game;)
Love and peace
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.05 13:04:00 -
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wtf? who the hell is "Dark Empire" does Jade even know who she is fighting? lol...too
lol its "Dork Empire" you numpty! Biomice and Space Muppets ... everyone knows that ;)
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.05 19:48:00 -
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Tevel Geikon,
Third or fourth time its happened; NVA council is getting heartily sick of it. We blame sloppy recruiting standards and poor man-management of corporations for this kind of thing.
If a corporation wishes to function and be taken seriously it must be extremely protective of its reputation. It is the job of corporate offices to sniff out potential traitors like WarmechMJ before they have the opportunity to turn their coats in battle and cause harm.
If your corporation has neither the time nor the inclination nor the ability to make sure its own house is in order with regard to security risks and moles and traitors etc, then you really had no business applying to join a regional alliance.
WarmechMJ has harmed your reputation greatly.
If you can show us that you have the will and the ability to punish this former employee than the future holds the possibility of negotiation and ammedment of political decisions.
But you need to sort our this problem.
It is not our job to target your traitors to clear your name.
Incidently,
Had this pilot merely quit your corp; avoided the region, and then later joined Biomass or misc pirates to get his kicks ... this matter would not have been viewed so seriously.
Instead he used your corporate name to gain the confidence of our fleet, built relations and trust with our pilots. And then turn his coat at a dramatic moment to join the infamous Hupa in an attempt to ambush and harm NVA interests.
Fortunately Hupa's piloting is as poor as his reputation and taste in allies, and failing to make an impression on the NVA patrol was forced to cowardly log-off in a humiliating effort to save his Raven battleship from a richly deserved annihilation.
But the fact remains ... Eve GHST's allowed this viper WarmechMJ to get into position to harm us, and frankly, dealing with the fallout from his treachery ... is ... your problem.
Love and peace
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.05 20:42:00 -
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Probably an oversight, we were trying to prune the list of mil/industrial allies down to people who actually still needed it and/or wanted to commit aid.
Also bare in mind NVA space is only closed in Venal and northern regions. Its possible to operate in PB/K-Tay/Fade etc with no specific treaty.
If you do need a continuance of the Mil/industrial ally status lets have a chat, we can always use more help in to fight the good fight monsieur ... and the merc budget always needs topping up ;)
Love and peace
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.05 21:32:00 -
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Tevel, we are in agreement on most issues I think so I will offer clarification on these ones only;
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No it is not. But as far as I remember the history of your alliance you always had a formidable way to deal with corps or people who attacked you.
Rest assured we intend to destroy the Biomass alliance by a multitude of means and strategies.
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But in this case I can hardly fail to notice that you definitely excluded WarMechMJ from your KOS list, despite his attack on your alliance members, while placing us there.
We only maintain personal KOS for corp thieves not war enemies. Since WarmechMJ joined Biomass he is KOS anyway. If he leaves Biomass we will KOS his new corp in all likelihood.
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Just out of curiosity I would really like to know why the sudden change of heart?
I think you will see its not a change of heart.
Love and peace
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.06 20:17:00 -
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Cormyat, It really doesn't sound like the NVA is a democracy. They are more like a federation that is governed by an oligarchy.
A rather inept one at that.
Because a random selection of space-poltroons united in a piratical alliance that can't find the right jump-hole with both hands and a teamspeak connection is such an expert on representative government?
Biomice ... fantastic combatants and accomplished gate gankers all, just don't ask them for the directions to the next system over or you might miss the turning to the war.
;)
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.07 04:00:00 -
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Violation was never one of my guys mr Zombie. You'll have to ask him for the fully story.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.07 16:27:00 -
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ggggrrrrr my rage builds by the minuite. Does anybody know of an Anti New Venal Alliance, cause sign me up....
Errrr ... have you tried the Biomice and Space muppets m'dear?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.08 03:53:00 -
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Well you have plenty of options for joining an NVA hating corp m'dear; I would join Captain Mascara with your alt and Biomice with your main if I was you.
But seriously, its been a long thread and we have had a lot of analysis both sound and silly, but the fact remains, NVA policy is made and the game is afoot. Let the chips fall where they may.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.09 05:57:00 -
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Is it just me? Or do the number of animated smily emotes in a post have a direct correlation to the intellect of the person posting by inverse proportion.
I wonder, because Naryan (mr Windbag) rarely says anything at all. But fills the gaps between his vapour with ludicrous smilies for some reason ...
And of course Captain Mascara is a profligate lunatic with them ...
Ah well, just musing
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.09 12:49:00 -
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offered without comment ...
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Channelname: Reptar conversation
Listener: Jade Constantine
Session started: 2003.11.08 20:28:45
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[ 2003.11.08 20:28:54 ] Reptar > hey jade?
[ 2003.11.08 20:29:00 ] Reptar > i got away
[ 2003.11.08 20:29:19 ] Reptar > just wondering was that on purpose?
[ 2003.11.08 20:30:17 ] Jade Constantine > not much skill in killing a frigate
[ 2003.11.08 20:30:42 ] Reptar > but u didnt get me
[ 2003.11.08 20:30:51 ] Reptar > thats the second blockade i got through
[ 2003.11.08 20:30:59 ] Jade Constantine > doesn't really matter though does it
[ 2003.11.08 20:31:21 ] Reptar > u should mange your ppl better u wanna know how i knew it was clear
[ 2003.11.08 20:31:52 ] Jade Constantine > not my job
[ 2003.11.08 20:31:53 ] Reptar > i was at almost max range for directional scanners, just kept scanning
[ 2003.11.08 20:31:58 ] Reptar > then went
[ 2003.11.08 20:31:59 ] Jade Constantine > i don't run combat ops
[ 2003.11.08 20:32:04 ] Reptar > it was fun i enjoyed it
[ 2003.11.08 20:32:07 ] Reptar > thanx alot
[ 2003.11.08 20:32:17 ] Jade Constantine > you'll have to gloat at the fleet commander
[ 2003.11.08 20:32:17 ] Reptar > and pls put bounty on me :D
[ 2003.11.08 20:32:30 ] Reptar > whos that?
[ 2003.11.08 20:33:19 ] Jade Constantine > nobody today that was just a fun rally
[ 2003.11.08 20:33:26 ] Jade Constantine > we wanted to kill warmech
[ 2003.11.08 20:33:37 ] Jade Constantine > didn't really care about you i am afriad ;)
[ 2003.11.08 20:33:46 ] Reptar > lol yeah i know
[ 2003.11.08 20:33:51 ] Reptar > can u put me higher on you kill list pls?
[ 2003.11.08 20:33:56 ] Reptar > i enjoy it alto
[ 2003.11.08 20:34:24 ] Jade Constantine > you aren't on our kill at all i think
[ 2003.11.08 20:34:38 ] Reptar > yeah i get chased all the time
[ 2003.11.08 20:34:50 ] Reptar > but i think thats cause of my corp
[ 2003.11.08 20:34:53 ] Jade Constantine > yeah well
[ 2003.11.08 20:34:58 ] Reptar > with warmech in
[ 2003.11.08 20:35:16 ] Reptar > can we go on your kos list? and take eves ghsts off?
[ 2003.11.08 20:35:23 ] Jade Constantine > nope
[ 2003.11.08 20:35:30 ] Reptar > pllsssss
[ 2003.11.08 20:35:43 ] Reptar > ah i gotta earn it then ok deal
[ 2003.11.08 20:36:02 ] Jade Constantine > go and attack someone in ec
[ 2003.11.08 20:36:03 ] Reptar > i will deliver 5 nva corpses for 1 place on kos list?
[ 2003.11.08 20:36:29 ] Jade Constantine > are you lonely?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.09 19:16:00 -
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And so you can split the bounty with your biobuddies? I don't think so. And anyway, the NVA prefers the fun and games of hunting you ourselves.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.14 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 14/11/2003 20:22:34
I am afraid Crice that this evening I have received new intel which forces me to classify you as what is known in the trade as "a lying ass dog".
Members of your own corp have explained in-depth your role as a Biomass shadow-corp counciller, fence, collaborator and indeed quisling of the dork alliance.
Human intel from Biomass occupied systems confirms the allegations made against you.
It therefore appears you have made your choice.
Stand with Biomass and fall with them.
Love and peace
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.15 01:48:00 -
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This is like the space Jerry Springer show;)
Talk about right on the button! Our suspicions about Crice turn out to be pretty damneed accurate after all. And what a shower of weasels.
Seriously, Leviathanie is the only one who comes out of this with any credibility since she didn't go on record with a catalogue of utter fabrication and bare-faced lying in the public forum like Crice did.
Crice you really make me laugh, I think its possible you are the least upstanding member of the galactic community!
Having spoken to me privately for literally hours you maintain a continous barrage of lies;
It made no difference that I wasn't buying, you kept begging for NAP with the NVA ... kept scamming and kept wriggling.
And that sob story about Biomass podding one of your guys for a warning?
Rubbish too I assume?
Lol, its almost too funny.
And as for the pathetic sight of biomass alts coming on here to support each others arguments ... guys ... grow up and realise that agreeing with yourself in a different voice and piccy doesn't make your argument any more valid.
Alts suck.
And you suck to.
Love and peace
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.15 03:52:00 -
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The only fact worth knowing here m'dear, is that 9 pages ago Crice launched this thread with the words;
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"... Not sure how or why we were added to this list. I would be curious to here what the reasoning is ..."
And now we discover that he was playing the audience for suckers all a long.
The NVA stuck to our guns and our belief that he was a collaborator and pirate quisling.
This belief has been proven by the many revelations and statements since.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.15 04:11:00 -
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I was referring primarily to the situation between leviathanie and crice and friends.
Well frothing aside, its always a good idea to keep one eye on the purpose of the thread. And in this case it was discussing the Crice KOS status.
Hence, thats the core issue.
All else inbetween has mostly been opportunistic biorats sniping and fun and games from reptar and captain masochist.
Love and peace
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.12.10 17:08:00 -
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Chris, one question ...
Who are Biomass again?
Love and peace
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.05 13:24:00 -
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First I was afraid
I was petrified
Kept thinking I could never live
Without you by my side
But I spent so many nights
Thinking how you did me wrong
I grew strong
I learned how to carry on
And so you're back
From outer space
I just walked in to find you here
With that sad look upon your face
I should have changed my stupid lock
I should have made you leave your key
If I had known for just one second
You'd be back to bother me
Go on now go walk out the door
Just turn around now
'cause you're not welcome anymore
Weren't you the one who tried to hurt me with goodbye
You think I'd crumble
You think I'd lay down and die
Oh no, not I
I will survive
As long as i know how to love
I know I will stay alive
I've got all my life to live
I've got all my love to give
And I'll survive
I will survive
It took all the strength I had
Not to fall apart
Kept trying hard to mend
The pieces of my broken heart
And I spent oh so many nights
Just feeling sorry for myself
I used to cry
Now I hold my head up high
And you see me
Somebody new
I'm not that chained up little person
Still in love with you
And so you felt like dropping in
And just expect me to be free
Now I'm saving all my loving
For someone who's loving me
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Posted - 2004.01.07 06:10:00 -
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Bloody hell, the intrigue never ends! Colour me breathless with panting anticipation at the fresh revelations you will doubtless hurl down like gleaming pearls before the swine of cynicial appraisal m'dear!
Come come, breath life into the thread dear shadowspawn, let your secrets be the channeled lightning of creation itself to tranfer the spark of vital fiery energy to raise this frankenstein's bride of a thread to hearty life once again!
The stage is yours sirrah, the players wait, the backdrops whirl ...
Play-on dear Sir, play on!
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Jade Constantine
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Jade I am not here to reveal unto thee high and mighty the meaning of life nor do I consider myself above or below I just know something about your allies that either you do not, or worse you do but dont care...my stake in this is curiosity...I want to know if Jade is indeed a gestappo or a peoples front and as such I offer information to accertain he beautiful truth for myself. Not for everyone else just for me hun
Curiousity is a honest cause and I will be happy to indulge you m'dear. You ask a fair question despite my gentle ribbing and I will do my best to answer your curiousity with honesty of my own.
But as for fascist or popular resistance fighter, well the truth is never quite so easy.
We are playing a game of vast possibility with pieces beyond number, and stakes as high as any can imagine.
I think myself "free" and I bid others to break the bonds of societal conditioning and mimetic psycho-social programming to the cause of far diaspora.
But the truth is ... where there is one sleeping thought-virus in the engine of civilisation there may be others.
Who is to say that we are not all pawns to a wider game?
At the last, though I'll not claim the mantle of "goodness", I'll shout in the cause of revolution and progressive evolutionary forces.
Change over stagnation. Freedom of unknown futures over slavery in a gilded cage. Its not pretty, but like your bargain monsieur, it has the virtue of being honest.
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If you wish to indulge me or not is your choice to make I just offer a trade..information to you and truth unveiled for me.
A fair trade. Bound and done.
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